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You are right in your thought - the ones I have are the orange/tan ones. They were published in England. though as far as I can see. Lot's of Aussie stories in them, and many written whilst the memories were still very [sign in to see URL] cover you remember with the photograph is amongst them . If there are any stories that you remember reading that you would like a copy of just let me know and I will send it for you. One of my favourite stories is written by [sign in to see URL]. V.C 18th Battalion. It is so funny and really captures that Aussie humour - when I read it I couldn't help wondering if the character Paul Hogan played in "The Anzacs's" wasn't based partly on this story. I might add it online when I get time.
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Hi Kate,

Wow- my memory is very good. I could not remember the title of the mag's, but I could remember a specific mag cover and colour of magazines I have not seen for 20+ years.
I remember as a kid having them spread out all over the floor & reading them late at night. Perhaps that was where I developed this long held passion of mine, or as my wife might say obsession.
That certainly is quite a nice find you have picked up.
So they were published in the UK =hey. Nonetheless, I remember they had plenty of very interesting Australian content.I would not mind havihg them in my collection!


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Re: Maxwell VC and Paul Hogan. A fellow researcher told me that 'Hells, Bells and Madamoiselles' did provide ideas for the ANZACS script. Perhaps it was mentioned in the credits. Haven't seen the show for many years, but it was out on video as a box set several years ago. Obviously my birthday present dropping hints weren't picked up!
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'Anzacs', the mini-series, is also now available on DVD.
I got a copy from

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People may be interested to know that a butchered version of the series was available outside Australia as a 'movie.' It was entitled 'Anzacs: The War Down Under,' (as if the war was actually fought in Australia or New Zealand). I hired it when I first arrived in Japan, and found the original series had been cut up so badly to make it into a single movie length that it was pretty difficult to follow the storyline.

Also of interest; in the DVD version of 'Gallipoli', the part of the script where the British at Suvla Bay are said to be 'sitting around drinking cups of tea,' has been altered. This line was always one of the main criticisms people had of the movie. It even drew a response in the form of an article in the 'Journal of the Australian War Memorial' (Prior, R. 'The Suvla Bay tea-party: a reassessment.' Oct 1985).

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Hi Bryn

Last weekend I finished reading a letter written by a Sergeant Mofflin of the 11th Bn AIF.
It runs to about 38 pages and was written from his hospital bed in October 1915. It's very interesting as it encompasses his experiences at Gallipoli from the landing till he was evacuated just prior to July 1915.
In it he doesn't hold back on his opinion of some of the 11th Bn's officers.
If you want me to e-mail you some extracts from the letter let me know.
Unfortunately Mofflin was killed the following year in the 51st Battalion.

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I have a copy of The Anzac's on video, purchased from Readers Digest earlier this year (the DVD became available just after I bought them!!) I checked the credits for Maxwell but the only one I could see was Patsy Adam Smith. I am interested to know what others think of this series. I really enjoyed it, and all my family sat right through it and even mananged to show a spark of interest my WW1 work (for about a week - but that in itself was a major achievement.) Not long after watching it - I was talking to a WW1 History student - who just canned it - said it was just full of the ANZAC myths and just absolute rubbish. I wasn't sure what I had missed that made it so bad - I've watched it again and again and still love it - I find it quite inspiring more than anything- does anyone else have an opinion on it??
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I'd have to ask exactly what the history student meant by the 'Anzac myth.'

The term has been so frequently and thoughlessly bandied about over the years as to have become completely meaningless in itself.

Unless the person criticising something by invoking the term can be specific, I'd suggest that (in most cases), it's a knee-jerk reaction; a stock phrase used without thinking to denigrate any attempt to represent Australians or New Zealanders at war.

The use of the word 'myth' is in itself a whole area of potential study for history (or psychology) students. 'Myth' implies something not true. Thus the term 'Anzac myth' automatically assumes any contentions within are false, even before any examination or discussion of them.

I personally found 'Anzacs' to be very good, especially in details such as uniforms, badges and equipment. While it certainly has some inaccuracies (the 8th Battalion were never at Lone Pine, for example), and is a bit jingoistic in places, it's still one of the best introductions to Australians in the First World War that the majority of people will ever have. Most people will never see, let alone read, the official histories, the unit histories, etc., but of course that wouldn't matter to your history student, as no doubt he'd just claim that those sources were full of 'myth' as well. I look forward to the publication of his definitive study of the 'real' Anzacs or, failing that, just to hearing his opinions on the forum.

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Hi Andrew,

You wrote:

"Last weekend I finished reading a letter written by a Sergeant Mofflin of the 11th Bn AIF.
... In it he doesn't hold back on his opinion of some of the 11th Bn's officers."


Thanks very much for the offer. I'd love to hear the 'dirt' on the officers. I've often read similar uncensored opinions in diaries, and it all helps paint the picture.

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Hi Bryn

Will send the extracts of the letter through to you on Monday.
In one part of the letter, Mofflin describes the landing and climbing up from the beach whereupon he accidentally prods Major Drake-Brockman, who was climbing in front of him, in the behind with his bayonet.
Apparently Drake-Brockman was not impressed!!!

In regard to 'Anzacs' I remember first seeing it as a schoolboy around 1985, and it did more to get us interested in World War One than anything our teachers were teaching us from the syllabus.

There might be inaccuracies but overall I didn't think Anzacs was to far from the truth.
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Hi all,

I must admit I find watching films like �The Anzacs� and the �The Light Horseman� don�t quite stack up as well as I remembered the first time I saw them when they were released in the mid 80�s. There was one on the Vietnam War with Nicole Kidman I remember being quite good. That is not say they don�t have any merit. I just find now days the scripts and acting a bit indifferent. For me �Breaker Morant� and �Gallipoli� seem to stack up better as the years roll on. I suppose I would have seen them all when they first were released and some many times over. There were so many of them made back in those days due to the tax incentives that were introduced to support the local film industry.
I prefer to watch some of the excellent documentaries on the Great War that I have purchased or copied on VHS over the years.

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