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My wife has just given me the two volume 'World War One 1914-1918: A Pictured History'. It is in superb condition. Fascinating to hear when and how it started life. The layout fits with having been a series of magazines.

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Bryn - you have stimulated my interest in this topic and I have discovered that I have a British War Medal for Brodribb R H 11th Bn AIF at home here. Captain Annear is clearly visible in the front rows of officers in the 11Bn photo on the pyramids in Egypt - Regards Roy
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Interesting, Roy.
It's great when you can put a bit more of a story to a medal or group of medals. I was just in London and picked up a BWM to a Sergeant Watson, 18th Battalion. It turns out he was killed in action at Hill 60, Anzac, on 27th August 1915. I need to find a photo of him now!

I believe you may have met one of my colleagues on our 'Officers' project recently. John's in Perth at the moment and was telling me he's met you.

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Bryn: Good to hear from you again!
The following enlistment details about your man Sgt Edward Watson of the 18th Infantry Battalion (if you don't have the info already):
#1590 Sgt Edward Watson, 29 yo labourer, single, address at enlistment Redfern (?), next of kin: W Watson, Father, Balkenmack, Tealing, Forfarshire, Scotland; religion Presbyterian; date enlisted 3 April 1915, 1st Reinforcements, 18th Infantry Battalion, sailed from Sydney aboa4rd HMAT A32 'Themistocles' on 12 May 1915.
Killed in Action 3 and a half months later on 27 August 1915.
It would appear that Sgt Watson's medals and death plaque etc would have been sent to his parents in the UK?
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PS I have just looked at Sgt Edward Watson's Red Cross Casualty and Missing file and read some very interesting and differing accounts. One 'informant' claims that he was seen in the 5th Brigade's QM store in France in 1916, and another stated that there were two Sgt Watsons in the 18th Battalion and both were killed (on the samr day?).

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Hi Dave,

Thanks for that info. I haven't started looking into Sergent Watson's service in great detail yet. I just checked my database and, yes, there were two Sergeant Watsons in the 18th Battalion killed on 27 Aug 1915. Actually the other was a lance-sergeant, but that's close enough. Interestingly, they have consecutive regimental numbers, 1589 and 1590, but don't have the same parents, so are not brothers. Cousins, maybe? Yes, I assume the medals, scroll, plaque, etc. were sent to the parents in Scotland. Makes you wonder who broke them up and sold them?

I read some Red Cross reports on the death of a British officer while I was in London. He was actually an Australian, serving in the British forces. About nine witnesses saw him killed and made statements. Some are similar, but no two actually agree. Eyewitness accounts often tend to be like that, but I suppose it's hard to notice details when you're under fire, surrounded by smoke and noise and in the dark. Bit harder to understand how someone can claim to have seen the same man a year later though.

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Bryn: enlistment details for #1589 Thomas William Watson - rank at enlistment: Corporal; 33 yo manufacturer; single of 57 Glover Street, Mosman NSW; nok Father, S Watson of same address; religion : C of E; Enlisted 7 April 1915.
Of further possible interest to you is that two nephews of Lieut-Colonel Robert Scobie, 2nd Infantry Battalion, both enlisted and embarked with the 18th Battalion, viz #14 Pte Wallace Wilfroy Scobie and his brother #33 Pte Donald Douglas Scobie and both being in A Company.
#607 (then) Pte Joseph Maxwell (later Lieut) VC, MC and Bar, DCM) embarked in B Company of the 18th Battalion.
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Yes Bryn - It was a pleasure to chat to John and I have some good close up detail photos of some officers KIA that I have extracted from the 11th Battalion on the pyramids - the detail of the photograph I have been detailing and improving for a few years now is very clear. Roy
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Kate, I am interested in the article you mention that was written by Pte Fred Fox AIF - called Through The valley Of Death - April 23 - 25th. I have been unable to find it anywhere. I am researching the life of Private Frederick Young Fox (389), later promoted to Captain. Do you know where I can access a copy?
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