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Thanks mate,

I'll give it a go

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Steve

Have sent you an e-mail with Garth's e address. If it doesn't get to you let me know.

Cheers
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Steve
Jonathan Richards at Griffith Uni in Brisbane is a worthwhile local contact on Aboriginals. Tell him I sent you!!
11th LH Hietory has mention of Aboriginal soldiers and John Oxley Library has photographs of some in uniform, including what appears to be a wedding photo of 2 couples (ladies in white with men in LH uniform)
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The AWM 'Journal' some years ago had an insertion which listed Aborigines who enlisted in the AIF. I believe this may have been reprinted from the 'Reveille' magazine mentioned. I only spotted my copy last week in the 'dd archives' but it has become 'lost' again. I have a document on one of my other computers which lists Hunter Valley abos (short for 'aborigines'). Will try to post it in the next few days or so.
Douglas Grantwas an interesting chap. He was at the Maitland Military Camp for a little while, and while memory he was adopted after the Myall Creek affair and was a draftsman at aMort's Dock in Sydney, as well as a champion cricketer and footballer. When captured by the Jerries, many German scientists came to see Grant as they had never seen an Australian Aborigine before. I think the Germans put him in charge of other POWs as they considered him to be trustworthy. Out of interest, Billy Hughes' son was also at the Maitland Military Camp for a while early in 1916 as a machine gunner.
I would be interested in obtaining (purchasing) a copy of the Huggonson article on 'Aboriginal Diggers of the 9th Brigade, 1st AIF' if anyone has a copy.
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Dave,

I saw the article by Dave Huggonson in the Mitchell Library, Sydney. They have the full set of Royal Australian Historical Society journals there on the open access shelves.

Looks like I'll be back in Sydney just before Christmas so if you don't manage to get the article by then I'll make a copy for you.

They have some other interesting articles as well, for example:
Bridges, B. 'Lord Kitchener and the Morant - Handcock Executions' June 1987, pp 24 - 40.

Kent, D. A. 'Trench Newspapers at Gallipoli' Dec 1992, pp 120 - 132.

Willis, I. 'Patriotism and Education in New South Wales 1915 - 1930' 1994, pp 74 - 90.

Bean, C. E. W. 'Sidelights of the War on Australian Character' 1927, p 221.

Bean, C. E. W. 'The Writing of the Australian Official History of the Great War - Sources, Methods and Some Conclusions' 1938, p 85.


They also have some interesting articles in 'Supplement to The Medical Journal of Australia':

Gordon, K. F. 'Days at an advanced Dressing Station' 3 Dec 1927, pp 466 - 471.

Maguire, F. A. 'Medical Services In The Field: With Special Reference to the Battle of Messines'20 Aug 1927, pp 49 - 53.

Tracy-Inglis, R. 'Medical Organization In War' 3 Sep 1927, pp 122 - 127.


By the way, I keep meaning to ask. Do you know this one?

Scone & Upper Hunter Historical Society. The Anzac Letters of Oliver & Joseph Cumberland. Scone & Upper Hunter Historical Society, Scone [n.d].

It's also in the Mitchell. Ref: [sign in to see URL]
Oliver & Joseph Cumberland were both killed.

Regards,
Bryn


PS. I also keep meaning to say, your books ('Coal Miner Diggers' and 'Where Heroes Sleep'), were a great resource for me when I was at Gallipoli. Thanks very much for sending them to me.

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Dave, I may have a copy of the article you seek. Dave Huggonson sent it to me several months ago, when he was teaching out west to earn some money (hey, why else would you be a teacher???!!!). I will look on my desk (aka the junk pile) when I get home.
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Sorry, David. I found David Huggonson's extract, but it was 'Villers-Bretonneux: A strange name for an Aboriginal burial ground', from Journal of Royal Historical Society of Qld, Vol 14, No 7, May 1991. It lists 13 Aboriginal soldiers' names. In David's footnotes, it mentions an article he wrote for Australian Quarterly in Spring 1989, called 'Dak Diggers of the AIF'. It may be useful to researchers.
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G'day there, Bryn.
Good to hear that 'Coal Miner Diggers' and 'Where Heroes Sleep' were of use. I have received similar comments from a few other folk who have taken the books abroad while on their pilgrimage to the battlefields.
I am not familiar with the Scone and Upper Hunter Historical Society's "The Anzac Letters of Oliver & Joseph Cumberland."
I have a few contacts from around these parts who go down to Sydnety to the State Library regularly, I'll ask one of them to look up the 9th Brigade article. Thanks for the tip!
Graeme: thanks for looking.
Much appreciated.
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Dave and Bryn
I have a copy of the 'The Anzac Letters of Oliver and Joe Cumberland' if it is any help.
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Thanks Ross.
What I'd like to know is; when was it published?
I'm pretty sure it has no date in the book, but if you can find one, or even a clue to the approximate date, that'd be great.
Where and when did you pick it up?
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