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I have been helping my 11 year old son research his great grandfather’s involvement in World War 1 for a school assignment. He was Norman Stanley Magee, number 7754, unit 5 FAB (Field Artillery Brigade) Nov 1915. He Embarked on HMAT Persic 18 Nov 1915 in Sydney. He was injured in Gallipoli – shot in the head but saved by his helmet. He suffered for the rest of his life from headaches and ill health associated with his injuries and was very limited as far as work was concerned. He died in 1955 aged 66.

Do you know how I can find out more about his involvement in the war and if Gallipoli was the only place he fought? Obviously, it was the last place he fought due to his injuries but he may have been somewhere else first.


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Leanne,

If you go to the NAtional Archives website [sign in to see URL] and follow the WW1 links, you'll be able to view Norman Magee's service documents that tell you all about his service.

In actual fact, he never reached Gallipoli as it was evacuated just before he arrived in Egypt. However, he did serve on the Western Front from early 1916 until late 1918 when he was wounded. These wounds are listed as concussion and a severe back injury.

Let us know if you want any further info.

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Tim L.

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Happily on the sun or feel the rain
Without remembering how they who went
Ungrudgingly and spent
Their lives for us loved, too, the sun and rain?

Wilfred Gibson - Lament (1916)
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Thanks for the information. I had previously looked at his record. In 1998 my mother received a letter saying that by way of his service on Gallipoli my Grandfather became eligible for the ANZAC Commemorative Medallion which my mother then claimed. So why would he have been entitle to this if he never got to Gallipoli?
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Interesting question Leanne. The only reason I can come up with is that he might have just scrapped in on a technicality.

The Anzac Medallion could be claimed by "Every Anzac soldier who served on the Gallipoli Peninsula, or in direct support of operations there."

In his records it states that he disembarked at Suez 21/12/15 & proceeded to join MEF (Mediterranean Expeditionary Force)- which was the Gallipoli force.

So, although the Anzac sector of Gallipoli was completely evacuated by the 20/12/15 - it seems he was still on his way to join them - and probably would have ended up with his unit on Lemnos Island - before later returning to Egypt.

A technicality, or an error?
Interesting question.
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Thanks for this. Are you able to tell me more of what he did. I find the documents difficult to decipher. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

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Hi again Leanne

After returning to Egypt, Gunner Norman Magee was transferred from the Brigade Ammunition Column of the 5th FAB, to the 20th Battery, 5th FAB on the 10/3/1916 at Moascar.

He embarked on the ‘Minnewaska’ 19/3/1916 at Alexandria to join the BEF (British Expeditionary Force on the Western Front) – disembarking at Marseilles, France 25/3/1916.

He was transferred to the 22nd FAB on the 13/5/1916, and later transferred back to the 5th FAB on the 27/1/1917, being posted to the 13th Battery as a Driver.

On the 6/12/1917 he reverted back to a Gunner at his own request.

He was granted his first lot of Leave in the UK from 15/2/1918 to the 12/3/1918.

He was then wounded (accidently) on the 10/8/1918 – sustaining an injury to his back.
On the 11/8/18, he was admitted to the 5th Australian Field Ambulance – and then to the 53rd Casualty Clearing Station – moving on to the 2nd Canadian General Hospital on the 12/8/1918.

The 18/8/1918 saw him embark for England, where he was admitted to the Bath War Hospital on the 20/8/18 (now listed as concussion & back injury, severe)

From here he was sent on to the 3rd Auxillary Hospital at Dartford, 15/11/18, where he was admitted on the 18/11/18.

His discharge from hospital came through on 21/11/18, and he was then granted furlo until 5/12/1918 – at the end of which time, he was to report to the 2nd Command Depot. (Being marched in from Admin HQ’s on that day)

The 24/12/1918 saw him embark on the ‘Takada’ for his return to Australia (the reason being listed as ‘fractured skull’). He arrived in Melbourne 11/2/1919, where he awaited a transport to Sydney, finally arriving Sydney the 16/2/1919. He was discharged from the AIF, medically unfit, on 30/5/1919.


Norman re-enlisted in the 2nd World War on the 21/10/1940 – and served until 12/11/1942 as a Gunner, N99082, in the Aust S of ANCO Wing FD Med & Svy.

Hope this helps, Frev
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thanks very much for all your help.

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